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Education as turning the outside-in and the inside-out again

9/8/2023

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I first encountered Greek when I tried to read philosophy as a teenager.  I would think that I was following the ideas until I was stopped in my tracks by words in an unfamiliar script, words like λόγος meaning ‘word’ but also, depending on context, ‘thought’, ‘speech’ or ‘reason’ or νοῦς meaning ‘mind’ or also, depending on context, ‘intelligence’ or ‘insight’.  Not understanding these signs projected me from insider to outsider status.  I had felt that I understood – that I was included within a shared space of meaning – one of the gang - and then I was unceremoniously ejected. Not knowing Greek, I found myself on the outside looking in, thinking what the %@*&! does that mean! 
 
My first time in a school as a trainee teacher involved similar experiences. At first the other teachers made me feel at home but then small incidents led me to feel like an outsider. I did not understand the significance of many unspoken differences that I could somehow sense were important without knowing quite why. And I do not just mean which chair to sit on in the staff room – although that was an issue – I also mean most aspects of the craft of teaching. Some teachers, for example, were expert at gaining respect and directing the attention of difficult students. At first I could not see how they were doing this. Later I learnt to recognise some ways of using voice, posture, and eye contact that they were using and that I needed to learn. It almost always takes a while to move from feeling like an outsider to becoming an insider: from seeing signs of what being a teacher means when looking at others to walking and talking the reality of being a teacher from within. 
 
We are all of us surely familiar with this switch from outside to inside  – at least I hope that this distinction makes sense to you.  (And if this does make sense to you, dear reader, then pause a while to consider what is happening when you read these signs, how are these patterns of external grey or black marks on a screen in front of you connecting with patterns in your experience, connecting with your answering words perhaps, to form a new internal space of meaning not just outside you as if trapped on the screen but also not completely inside you, closed off inside your head. Where is this place? This space where we meet? What is it exactly?) While most people seem to get the difference between being an insider in a social situation and being an outsider, the same people can seem to get very confused at what I think is the closely related distinction between ‘subjectivity’ and ‘objectivity’ or between ‘consciousness’ and ‘matter’. 
 
In notebooks published after his untimely death the French philosopher of perception, and my first intellectual crush, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, describes an incident on a visit to Manchester when, perhaps thrown by the local accent, he could not make out what the taxi driver was saying. He writes that it was only when he did not understand that he thought to himself ‘those are words there’. His perception shifted. Normally if a taxi driver says something like: ‘it is a lovely day today’ we grasp the meaning immediately and are ready to respond. Normally hearing words means moving directly into a world of shared meaning. But this time he heard the words only as external sounds in the air. Objective, material facts. That is how things often appear when you are an outsider – closed off, cold, dead. But as an insider, you understand the words and you enter into a shared space, what I like to call a dialogic space. It is dialogic – meaning ‘like a dialogue’ – because all the voices and words in this space are not static and fixed objects anymore but they influence each other dynamically, moving and changing – dancing around each other in real time. 
 
I think that what might lie behind binary accounts of objectivity versus subjectivity is an extrapolation of ideas out from the everyday experience of having an inside point of view, talking to a taxi driver for example, or taking an outside point of view, watching someone else talking to a taxi driver for example or perhaps imagining Merleau-Ponty talking to a taxi driver in Manchester. On the one hand people have projected the idea of an inside without an outside: the subjective world; a mysterious realm sometimes referred to as ‘consciousness’ inhabited by vague ghosts labelled as ‘souls’ or ‘selves’ surrounded by buzzing clouds of ‘thoughts’, ‘values’ or ‘memories’. On the other hand people have projected an equally odd, equally extreme idea of an outside without an inside: the ‘objective’ real world; a world of solid fixed things, matter made of atoms like little hard ball bearings bouncing around or fields of time and space like a four dimensional shoe box that contains us within it. But if you return from these culturally constructed fantasies to the reality of experience you will I hope realise with me, that inside and outside are always entangled up together - it is simply not possible to have an outside without an inside or to have an inside without an outside. What we have is not a choice between subjectivity or objectivity, consciousness or matter, but more a kind of dialogue or a kind of dance: sometimes I see myself as an object, defined by the gaze of others, sometimes I am on the inside looking outwards and defining them, sometimes the objects I see before me are just that, closed dead things to be probed and measured, and at other times they come alive and draw me into new worlds of experience. 
 
Modelling the outside becoming inside 
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Picture 1: Mobius strip with ants crawling on it by Escher

An ant walking forwards on the surface of a mobius strip would find itself moving from the outside of the strip to the inside. This could be an analogy for what happens in education: at first the strange Greek words like λόγος are alien, outside my experience, but after a while, with the help of a guide, I find that I can use them creatively to make sense of things. From being an object in the apparently external world they become lights in the more internal world of my understanding. From being an outsider I become an insider just by walking forwards on the path of education. 
 
I hope that you agree with me that this 'turning the outside inside' idea helps to describe learning Greek philosophy perhaps or learning to be a teacher but I would also like to take it further. I think that this idea sums up what is most essential to education and it locates education as a part of what might be a much larger process of growth through which the whole external apparently ‘objective’ world or universe is slowly internalising in order to understand itself and express itself through us. Perhaps we are the universe on the inside? After all the scientists who explore the universe and discover new things work in institutions of education, their research is combined with teaching, and the same is true of scholars and researchers who explore and expand the world of human experience through history and the arts. At its best education does not just reproduce what is already there, it inducts new apprentices to participate in the endless job of the creation and recreation of the world. 
 
I got this big idea – the idea that education as about turning outside inside in order to be able to turn inside outside again in expression – after reading James Joyce’s  autobiographical first novel ‘Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man’. I was struck by how he starts the novel with himself, the author, as a passive part of the external world. The opening words of the novel are:
Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo. . .
​We are to imagine Joyce – referred to as Stephen Daedalus in the novel – lying passively as a baby in a cot while his father leans over and tells him a story. He is ‘baby tuckoo’ and the words float down to him from outside and invite themselves in to meet him. At the beginning this baby, any baby, is not yet a fully formed ‘inside’, it has the potential to be an inside of course, much like an acorn found on the ground has the potential to grow into a giant tree. The novel describes a full education: how the author gradually learns the language, culture, and history of his context in Ireland and acquires his own voice until he is ready to leave Ireland and to become a writer. There is a gradual shift from being part of an outside to becoming an inside. From the unspecified past time of dreams (‘once upon a time’) at the beginning of the novel we arrive, by the end of the novel, at the present moment of action: from the third person we move to the first person. The last words of the book are:
I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race.
27 April: Old father, old artificer, stand me now and ever in good stead.
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Picture 2: The name Daedalus, given to Joyce’s protagonist, refers to the myth of a great craftsman who makes wings so that he can escape an island prison – the labyrinth. 

Making sense of the role of ChatGPT in education 
Although I first came across this idea of education – education as turning outside inside – in Joyce’s novel, I later found the same sort of idea in different forms within educational theory. The ‘Situated Learning’ theory of Lave and Wenger, for example, describes how outsiders join communities of practice moving from ‘peripheral legitimate participation’ (doing small jobs, sweeping the hair in a hairdressers shop for example)  until they become central players, old-timers whom others turn to for mentoring and advice. The Russian educational psychologist Vygotsky articulated a related theory of education as ‘internalisation’ using the Russian word vrashchivanie which also means ‘ingrowing’. His basic idea is that everything we think of as mind, not only being able to think but also being able to be conscious of thinking, is first encountered externally in social interactions and cultural practices and then internalised. Through education children are actively taught their culture so as to be able to think with it. This means that when we look out and think things as if we are individuals we are actually the collective culture on the inside albeit expressing itself in an always unique new way. This idea that the collective becomes the individual so that the individual is the collective on the inside is also suggested by Joyce when he writes about becoming the ‘conscience of my race’. 
 
But Joyce’s model of education offered in his ‘Portrait of the Artist’ is perhaps a bit too heroic and individualistic. He refers to forging his new conscience in ‘the smithy of my soul’ as if his soul was like a separate space cut off from the world. Another way of looking at this same process might be as him finding his voice in the larger dialogue of culture, a dialogue that includes multitudes. ChatGPT and other AI agents based on large language models (LLMs), offer what is, I think, a much clearer model, of how education can be seen as a circling of the collective outside around an individual inside and then outside again in expression. ChatGPT begins with a collective outside – it  trawls the internet to collect externalised language or words that have already been spoken. It does not read these words as words but finds statistical patterns in them. When you ask ChatGPT a question to help with learning any subject – perhaps key words in Greek philosophy, or how best to engage difficult students – it draws on this vast background of collective knowledge to express an answer. This answer has meaning for you only because it is internal to the specific and unique educational dialogue that you are having at that moment. ChatGPT is not conscious and does not understand anything. Its words circle from the collective outside of (potentially) all recorded language use on the internet to the unique and specific inside experience of you the user finding that the words ChatGPT gives you have meaning for a task that you are facing here and now. The meaning element, the educational purpose, is only possible because of the human in the loop, you who are asking the question and contextualising the answer. The AI and human students form together an interesting new kind of global organism: words and other meanings expressed by unique individuals understanding things and solving problems in a context go to make up part of the collective external treasury of signs that will then be trawled and processed by the AI to be fed back to new students asking new questions in new contexts. A collective unconscious outside revolves around and is constantly expanded and recreated by many unique conscious individual insides. I think that this is a good way of understanding what is really happening in education when it works well. The collective culture turns inwards and is reborn in each individual student as their ability to think creatively and express themselves outwards in ways that contribute back to the collective culture.
 
Why this inside-outside distinction matters  
Some accounts of education seem to remain only on the outside without giving a role to the inside –  they are not taking seriously the needs of individuals and communities trying to understand the world and to find their place within it. We read for example in UK government documents that learning means changes in long term memory: the story seems to be that facts found first outside of students in books move inside into their brains and are then expressed outside again onto the exam page. If this really is education, then ChatGPT can do it better. Why not eliminate the middleman? It would be more efficient. ChatGPT can trawl for facts faster than human students and can then regurgitate these more accurately as well as weaving them together more coherently and persuasively into essays. 
 
Real education is education for understanding which means the expansion of consciousness and the transformation of identity. Real education is about bringing what we originally encounter as external to us into an internal space of meaning, a shared dialogic space enabling us to think and to act together with more insight and more wisdom. ChatGPT and other LLMs can support this kind of real education but only when working together with human students and human teachers.  To make this vision of education work we need to teach students how to dialogue with AI agents to construct answers to problems in contexts and we also need to teach them how to find together new and better questions to ask and new and better problems to pose. Education could potentially become a virtuous circle combining the collective information gathering of AIs with the individual questions and insights of students; students who are thereby engaged into a kind of game of leapfrog with this new technology using it to gain more knowledge and stimulate further insights.
 
Thinking about education through the lens of LLM-based AI we can see that it has always been the circling of a collective outside – the collective inheritance of a shared culture  - to form individual insides able to express outwards both to recreate culture and to create new culture. But now with AI able to handle most of the more external work needed for this cycle, trawling for, processing and reproducing collective data, the focus of teaching and learning can be much more on the inside part of the cycle, on growing unique individual minds able to participate creatively as voices in a shared dialogue or what some might poetically refer to as a growing collective mind – an ever expanding noosphere (from nous or νοῦς, the Greek for mind).  
 
Postscript  
I want to end with something rather cryptic and evocative that Vygotsky wrote in the context of articulating his theory of education as internalisation or ‘ingrowing’.
Consciousness is reflected in the word like the sun is reflected in a droplet of water. The word is a microcosm of consciousness, related to consciousness like a living cell is related to an organism, like an atom is related to the cosmos. The meaningful word is a microcosm of human consciousness.[i].
When Vygotsky refers to ‘a word’ here  he does not mean the external word, the brute fact of black marks in ink on a white page or pixels on a screen, but a transformed word, a word (λόγος in Greek) first turned outside in by education and then shining inside-out to become a light that illuminates the world. Vygotsky here refers to ‘human consciousness’ as if this is a sphere separate from the sphere of physics and the sphere of biology but in fact he thought of all these three spheres as evolving together in a larger historical process - neural development merging into education – natural history growing into human history. After all we know that Vygotsky’s favourite philosopher was Spinoza the philosopher who pointed out that mind and matter are always joined together as two sides of the same coin, or two modes of the same universe. 
 

[i] https://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/words/Thinking-and-Speech.pdf page 284
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Pedro
11/8/2023 08:55:07 am

Your insight made me think hard Rupert. I'm wondering, if ChatGPT is great expressing the collective perspective, does that mean that there is a tendency to focus on expressing our individual thought? Our own voice as opposed to claiming to represent the many?

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Rupert Wegerif
11/8/2023 09:23:09 am

An interesting thought Pedro. Up to now most education in most areas is designed to get students to be able to say what everybody -or the experts in the field - already knows about the topic. But if it is easy for anyone to ask ChatGPT that then maybe the focus of education will change to encourage students to be able to do something different from what ChatGPT can do.
I guess this might lead to the kind of superficial creativity we sometimes see in fashion and popular culture where there is a premium on being different for the sake of standing out from the crowd - being an individual.
But I hope it leads rather to going beyond the collective social knowledge embodied by ChatGPT (or other systems in the future) to a premium on creativity leading to new knowledge that is not superficial but that comes out of dialogue with 'nature' or the background - I mean all experience that had not yet been thematised or processed in language. This includes advances in science but also in arts and self-knowledge.
ChatGPT can help with that. It is like the lit review stage in a project. You can ask it 'what have others done?' and also 'what are the problems and issues that this throws up that needs further work, further insight'.
In this way the creativity we need to promote in education for the ChatGPT age is not the superficial little 'c' creativity of personal differences - consumerist individualism - but the more profound and collective creativity of adding something new to the dialogue.

Maybe I make that sound too challenging but in practice we have many dialogues and enquiries about many different things - maybe I can't add to quantum cosmology but I can find a new way to increased productivity in the company or improve the well-being in my family. Creativity here often means applying 'collective' knowledge - or what has already been done in other contexts - to a unique situation. But doing that it can then be published (on ChatGPT) and re-used by others so there is an individual-collective cycle.

But yes definitely I think this suggests the need for an educational focus on creativity - both individual and group creativity.

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